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 Post subject: Never again
PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:05 pm 
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A fairly predictable and thoroughly unpleasant return to the 80’s at the Weaver Stadium today, with sickening acts of violence and malevolence around the town and in the ground itself. Anyone visiting the ground for the first time will probably not want to return, so shame on all those who disgraced themselves and ruined what ought to have been a wonderful day for both clubs. I had been made aware that Halifax are sadly blighted by some people who prefer pursuing anti-social behaviour to actually watching the football. Clearly Nantwich, or this particular fixture, attracted an undesirable element too. Some might say it was just youthful high jinks. I saw some terrified children and some very anxious adults. Some might blame a lack of police presence, but that is a failure to acknowledge that people can’t behave themselves and give little thought to the fact that they are spoiling other people’s enjoyment.
I never ever want to see scenes like that at Nantwich Town again. I feel so sorry for all the great people who have worked so diligently to make this club what it is.
I look forward to hearing what other people thought of today’s events.


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 Post subject: Re: Never again
PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:42 pm 
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Very sorry about our idiots who follow us. We seemed to have picked up a young hooligan element this season. The game should have been segregated and made all ticket. Its been mentioned by quite a few on our forum that this was a disaster waiting to happen. Utterly baffling why Police were not in the ground but outside until the trouble kicked off.
Anyway to the game on the pitch you seem to have a fairly lively team. Quite a few of our fans impressed with your number 7. We just seemed to score our goals at the right times.
If you think that was trouble Grimsby caused absolute mayhem in our Town when they came recently. The English disease seems to have returned.


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 Post subject: Re: Never again
PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:36 am 
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I've read a few posts that say the game should have been segregated but having been at the ground i am not sure how that would have been possible. Nantwich would (quite rightly) have wanted the side of the ground with the ice cream terrace, at least half of the seated stand and one area behind the goal. This would have left Halifax maybe half of the stand, and one area behind the goal. Segregation would have likely meant that the clubhouse area would have been made home fans only and the away fans would have been lumbered with a catering van instead of the lovely grub we got (a la Gainsborough).

Two things went wrong today that could have been avoided, young youths in very visible Stone Island/Aquascutum gear were allowed access in to the ground, these clothing brands are so well associated to anybody who knows anything about football, and in my view there should have been a police presence at the gates denying entry to these 'sorts' put them back on a bus and a police escort back to the motorway. At least in my younger days, those who sought out trouble had the common sense to hide their clothing brand labels inside the ground. These wannabe Danny Dyer's are too thick to try and blend in.

Secondly, the noisy chavs had soon gathered in to a very audible/visible section of the ice cream terrace and yet before it kicked off i counted 8 police officers and half a dozen stewards stood around the turnstile areas, seated stand or snack bars as if trouble was going to kick off over the price of chips or somebody knocking over anothers flask.

It is unfortunate that these events occurred but Nantwich fans were far from angelic in the fisticuffs and were equally culpable with the goading and more could have been done by both clubs (based on events in previous games) to forsee what might have occurred. I don't think segregation would have been the answer though as i doubt it would have prevented events before, during and after.

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 Post subject: Re: Never again
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:28 pm 
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http://www.nantwichtownfc.co.uk/?p=13320


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 Post subject: Re: Never again
PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:08 pm 
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One or two people seem to have got the idea that the hooligan element who were supporting Nantwich were just opportunists who saw the chance to cause some disruption, yesterday after the match which was segregated and the Nantwich support was given as 183, some Nantwich "fans" in their late teens early twenties followed some young 13 to 14 year old Halifax supporters into the railway station beat them up and ran off along the railway line. Halifax are aware that they have a small element of undesirable "fans" and have quite a few stadium banning orders in place but don't bury your heads in the sand Nantwich people and deny you have an element you could do without as I doubt anyone among the 183 would be anything but Nantwich "fans". This sort of thing is creeping back into all levels of football.


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 Post subject: Re: Never again
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:24 pm 
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There are idiots in/from Nantwich just like anywhere else. I'm not sure where you get the idea that anybody has denied that. 183 may be a small away following for you but I'm pretty sure it was our biggest away following of the season, (we struggle to get many over 300 for home league games). It was the perfect occasion for disruptive 'opportunists'.

Interestingly, almost every comment on the Halifax forum I visited was concerned with the 'element' from Halifax. Similarly, the fallout on the NTFC Facebook page focussed almost entirely on the conduct of NTFC and our fans - there has been very little cross-club finger-pointing IMO.

Out of interest, how much of the incident did you see? You must be able to describe the assailants quite well if you followed them out of the away stand all the way to the station.

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 Post subject: Re: Never again
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:09 pm 
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dabber lad wrote:
There are idiots in/from Nantwich just like anywhere else. I'm not sure where you get the idea that anybody has denied that. 183 may be a small away following for you but I'm pretty sure it was our biggest away following of the season, (we struggle to get many over 300 for home league games). It was the perfect occasion for disruptive 'opportunists'.

Interestingly, almost every comment on the Halifax forum I visited was concerned with the 'element' from Halifax. Similarly, the fallout on the NTFC Facebook page focussed almost entirely on the conduct of NTFC and our fans - there has been very little cross-club finger-pointing IMO.

Out of interest, how much of the incident did you see? You must be able to describe the assailants quite well if you followed them out of the away stand all the way to the station.

You will have to ask the people who were waiting on the platform who posted it on our forum, I doubt that they followed your "fans" from the away end but if you want to deny it happened then so be it, unless of course you were there to see or not see the incident.


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 Post subject: Re: Never again
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:01 pm 
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I don't remember denying anything. That's twice you've put words into other peoples mouths. Hmmmm.

I can't find anything on your forum but I might be looking at the wrong one. I walked from the away stand to the station after the game and saw nothing. Nothing was said about it at the station or on the way home. If I hear anything at tonights game I'll post it if that makes you feel better. I've got no interest in hiding/defending idiots whether they 'support' Nantwich, Halifax or anybody else.

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 Post subject: Re: Never again
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:22 pm 
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I was at the station from about 5.30pm and there was definitely an incident where a young lad(s) was beaten up by some other older lads who then ran off down the tracks. I arrived just as the Police arrived, and heard them getting statements off a couple of witnesses. However was unsure if the attackers were definitely Nantwich fans. Being in the away end on Saturday, I didn't see anyone who looked like that sort of person. (Could be completely wrong, but those into football violence normally have a distinctive way of dressing and acting).


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 Post subject: Re: Never again
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:59 pm 
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looks like Dabber Boy missed something that obviously happened doesn't it.


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 Post subject: Re: Never again
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:22 pm 
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He's never said it didn't happen. Just that he hadn't heard about it. He could have got an earlier/later train, if he wasn't at the station at the point it happened why would he know about it?


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 Post subject: Re: Never again
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:32 pm 
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I don't know what 'violence' went on at the station, but it certainly didn't involve any Nantwich fans. There was only about a dozen of us, and we were all safely on the train at 5.25 heading back to Nantwich. We'd been in the waiting room for for 10/15 minutes before this with other Halifax and no hint of trouble, 4/5 police came down on the platform and walked back up the stairs as there was no hint of trouble.

There were certainly no hooligan element amongst the Nantwich fans, certainly not on the teens/twenties age group.


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 Post subject: Re: Never again
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:53 pm 
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Not sure anyone will read this but..

http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/crime/huddersfield-town-fan-jailed-for-brawl-with-teen-shaymen-fans-1-8394385


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 Post subject: Re: Never again
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:41 pm 
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I saw that the other week and had totally forgotten about this thread.

As we all stated at the time there was no hint of troublemakers among the travelling Nantwich fans that day.

Shame we can't get Towmnad to come back and apologise for accusing Nantwich fans of causing violence that day.
What's the saying - 'You can tell a Yorkshireman, you just can't tell him much.'


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