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 Post subject: sour grapes......................
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:59 pm 
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yet again the same person on ssfc forum blames the officials for losing 6-2,,,,,,bad losers is the only term that can be used for some . The answer is take the referees course, put on the kit and have a go. until then put up or shut up, or should all referees pack in and leave games without offiicails. try looking closer to home why you have such an incompetent. inconsistent and inept team such as the manager who signed the players. people dont desrve this one sided rubbish that comes from his gob, as for supporters recruitment, ask yourself when people read the drivvel and excuses for losing do they want to join a band of bad losers,,,,,,,


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 Post subject: Re: sour grapes......................
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:51 pm 
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Nowhere are these verbatim comments to be read on the South Shields FC forum, to the effect that the referee is blamed for the defeat, an invention by 'Shieldsman', rather for what was seen as an inept and incompetent performance by the match officials is more to the point, and par for the course on the now general standard of NL referees and linesmen as is well posted on match comments on NLZ by numerous contributors of late. Bedlington took their chances well and good goals were scored, Shields contributed to their own demise by sloppy defending. The usual comments by Shieldsman beyond this are not worthy of response, the broken record being played yet again ad nauseum. Happy New Year - humbug.


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 Post subject: Re: sour grapes......................
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:32 pm 
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Although there were a few decisions which were wrong, (foul by the one of the terriers players early on in the centre circle not given, no card for the 2 footed foul) I think the officials got most of the decisions correct, infact he could have easily shown more cards than he did. Some of the behaviour of the Shields players was a disgrace with their verbal abuse of the officials and the less said about the lad sent off the better!

None of the decisions had an effect on the outcome of the game, the penalty was always going to be given, you dont attempt to tackle the player through on goal by from behind him. I'll be uploading the video of the tackle soon which doesnt appear to show the ball being touched in the tackle.

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 Post subject: Re: sour grapes......................
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:46 pm 
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one nil one nil one nil....................................... amazing that sympozium tells the truth and sees it as it was another side of the story about the disgraceful behaviour of some Shileds players...................any comment peetheball? why dont you write to the refs secretary and tel him about comments on NLZ and explain why the refs in the NL are all incompetent, why dony you suggest you bring your own referee so you can get all the decisions and win every game??????????? one nil one nil one nilllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll!!!!!!!!! :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: sour grapes......................
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:41 pm 
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In what was a very poor attendance, it was said by numerous from Shields that they were in the majority, and it was also common comment by the visitors supporters about the number of poor and questionable decisions that were seen. A fair adjudication, impartial and non -partisan is the expectation of all, and on a glue pot of a surface decent football was difficult for both sides and mistakes did happen. Also language was not the sole preserve of one side, as was heard, so it is unfair to suggest it may have been otherwise. A pity also that an assesser was not present. The tackle from behind which lead to the penalty, no complaints - the guy who walked was the last man, however the video would be instructive to watch.


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 Post subject: Re: sour grapes......................
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:47 pm 
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nobody mentioned the attendance but did mention the inaccurate report about incompetent officials, the behaviour of some players and in the Bed terriers match report on here about how approachable the officials were, wonder who approached them from shields?


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 Post subject: Re: sour grapes......................
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:54 pm 
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[[quote="shieldsman"]wonder who approached them from shields?
nobody mentioned the attendance but did mention the inaccurate report about incompetent officials, the behaviour of some players and in the Bed terriers match report on here about how approachable the officials were, wonder who approached them from shields?

Well you certainly did not approach them, cos you were'nt there
but you have decided to take one persons opinion as true against
another persons who you say is inaccurate.

You also said that Milliband has done nothing for SSFC
well that is something you and him have in common.
In my humble opinion the referee got things wrong for both
sides, Shields by far the better team in the first half and the
Terriers better in the second.
Lets move on and look forward to the next match on Saturday.


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 Post subject: Re: sour grapes......................
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:17 pm 
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so what were the comments about the disgraceful behaviour of the players???? was that inaccurate??? didnt have to be there to hear that did I


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 Post subject: Re: sour grapes......................
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:11 pm 
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The video can be seen on the Terriers website.

Although I dont support the views Shieldsman has posted throughout his time here on NLZ, the players behaviour was not what expected!

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 Post subject: Re: sour grapes......................
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:19 am 
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Shieldsman, your last comment on a Shields match, prior to those on the Bedlington game, was the 6th November. Ironically, this was also the last time Shields lost a game (against Shildon) and since then they have won three in a row (against Whickham, Tow Law and Sunderland RCA I believe). It's difficult to acknowledge that your comments are in the interest of a club when that is the timing of your posts. Maybe if, conversely, you praised the team in victory your regular comments might get a better reception.

Anyway, I have been fortunate enough to attend a couple of games recently and I've not witnessed anything special in terms of poor conduct. I've also played against Duncan O' Brien a couple of times (I understand that he was the player sent off?!) and it suprises me that his conduct was poor... Always seemed a bit of a gent. I'm sure it was a one off.

A game that sticks in my mind is West Auckland a couple of moths back. The language, conduct etc.. (And this isn't anyway a slight on WA) from them was no better than that of Shields. My point being, like it or not, that's the nature of the beast at times and maybe the best thing to do is ignore it, move on and enjoy the highs and lows of being a non-league football fan.


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 Post subject: Re: sour grapes......................
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:04 am 
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but its not the nature of the beast to continue to publicly berate officials and hide the deficiencies of others such as bad behaviour which wasnt commented on AND IT SEEMS MORE PROLIFIC WHEN SHIELDS LOSE if you look at the SSFC FORUM comments recently and instigated by one person, that was the original point. I will repeat my original theme that there is an element within the club who are bad losers plain and simple and they choose to attack the wrong people. if you are looking to recruit new fans there are better ways to do it than constantly harp on about recruitment in long winded paragraphs and on the other berate officials who by the way are paid a pittance for the hassle and abuse they get. How many players underperfromed on Tuesday??? I can bet there are far more overpaid underperforming players than referees. as for the comment on ssfc forum that it cost £150 for expenses and fees for 3 officials, what was the wage bill for players manager, hangers on etc for Tuesday on the back of a 6-2 defeat????? well in excess of £150 I would reckon. people need to think before they look for scapegoats as has been the norm at this club for a very long time. As I said, take the course in the laws of the game, work ytour way up the leagues into the NL and show just how good you are, until then keep quiet


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 Post subject: Re: sour grapes......................
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:52 am 
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To reconcile seeming pro South Shields FC comments as contained in "Miliband to Mackems" and "Why is elastic band President" with the stereotyped agenda associated with "Shieldsman" when posting about the club must confuse readers. For one who burnt his bridges with Shields long ago, its a strange attitude to now adopt and publicly make known this viewpoint. As for other comments as - bad losers at Shields, hiding behind player deficiences, referee constant condemnation etc etc ad infinitum are not factual. What is factual, is a club staffed with dedicated volunteers and a proactive Supporters Association that would be the envy of many, with no "hangers on" and also a team that is affordable on a limited budget. Beyond that he is hung by his own petard and he would do well to remain quiet and not publicly continue to ridicule himself.


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 Post subject: Re: sour grapes......................
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:32 pm 
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so what was the playing staff budget for that game you know the refs fees and expenses does it compare...............obviously not........... hiding behind inane comments as usual would you like me to find the posts you made on SSFC forum about referees last season and way before and post them on here???, that might make you look a tad ridiculed, definite refree haters ask any ref who goes there..... lets get digging..............


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 Post subject: Re: sour grapes......................
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:47 pm 
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"Inept and incompetent, and also partisan to the point of near bias for the great majority of the decisions made comes readily to mind for these match officials, plus also it must be said that respect for them that the FA go banging on about has to be earned, and on this shambolic show, which was no less than par for the course for the average Northern League match if one reads NLZ regularly, deserved the taunts and comments. Fees and travelling expenses for the privilege of such adjudication is usually I am lead to understand of the order of £150, which puts such comments into another perspective."

following defeat by Bedlington 6-2................posted 13/1

and who will officiate the game utterly without bias and be completely fair to both teams, and to a thoroughly commendable professional standard, not like some recent officials seen at SSFC games who shall remain nameless, and who are only fit to grace schoolboy matches ....

posted before a game v Whitley bay last season

This was an entertaining game, full of committment, and a game unfortunately spoilt by a whistle happy referee, guilty of far too numerous very poor decisions for both teams, who made no allowance for play on a heavy and difficult surface. The second half was once again littered with non sIn retrospect, a lamentable display by the referee that was well commented on by both sets of supporters, and on this evidence the league's campaign for respect has not got a prayer. A gutsy performance by Shields, but controlled aggression instead of boiled over tempers marred what was a good game until the final quarter. All credit to Spennymoor, the best side seen at Filtrona Park this season, but a disgrace about an incompetent official.too many whistles, many for petty offences which should have been overlooked in the conditions for the players.

posted following defeat by Spennymoor last season

Whatever be the respective rights and wrongs of the game last night from all perspectives, and I must confess to being more than disappointed at the manner in which it degenerated in the second half with the referees ineptness or even unwilling or disability and seeming apparent incompetence or call it what one will, to effectively control the game and not to allow it to spiral out of his direction, I do feel that perhaps a quiet word in both dressing rooms before the game would and could be more than beneficial as a word against use of shouted expletives and blatent foul play and his penalties for such unsporting behavouir, could but only be helpful for all concerned. As good sportsmen we all are, maybe the NL management committee should consider the introduction of some kind of a player's code of conduct and then enforce it ?

posted following game with consett last season and then the true picture from the following reply

"The first half was fairly uneventful. Fouls from shields players mainly off the ball, and davey been his typical dirty self putting himself about. There where a few minor fouls which if the ref had clamped down on early may not of boiled over into major incidents. But the ref can hardly be blamed for ellisons sending off, it was a blatant stamp whilst already on a yellow. Players have to take full responsibility some times and this is one of them. Only consetts number 3 was involved in any incident, despite many others been on the receiving end of fouls. Something we need to look at as a team, and also why was our bench acting so aggresively, hardly a good example to set to the players, who do often respond to how the manager is reacting. What we needed where cool heads and we could of possibly getting something out the game"


so peetheball it wasnt sour grapes....what was it then???? like me to keep digging there is plenty more where they came from :lol: 8) :lol: 8) :x :? :!:


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 Post subject: Re: sour grapes......................
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:57 pm 
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No problem Shieldsman with paras 1,2 3 and 4, all readers have read many on NLZ from numerous other contributors, in a similar vein. DATE AND NAME THE GAME also of the writer of para 5 for interest for all readers also ......


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