Frickley 1 on again get behind the team end of or is it yre sole job to pull the team down i assume you went then to make your comments or did you get the report second hand again

It would appear, from some posters on this thread, that we should think about replacing the manager after (between) 7 & 11 matches - are you lot for real???? That kind of attitude is a joke.

As numerous posters have commented, this season in the Prem is a bonus as we were, to all intent & purpose, relegated last year - but for gods sake have a word with yourself.

So I don't mean to get personal but let me select someone at random, Frickley 1 (& this isn't aimed solely at him) - you appear to want rid of Karl after 7 league matches (correct me if I'm wrong), who will you appoint instead (who is currently available - no ridiculous pie in the sky suggestions).

My opinion is that if you want a change of manager after less than 25% of the season then what will you want in future seasons? Lose the first match & get the sack.??? You are, most definitely, allowed an opinion and you should air it on here, but it's bow locks (in my humble opinion)

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I'm Glad someone agrees, It was always going to be a difficult season ahead. We basically had no team once last season finished. It's a bit of a learning process for the management team and players at this level. The manager has changed the system because 3 at the back wasn't working, and some players as we always thought have been found wanting at this level. Barring the Ferriby game, we have been in every game. Looking at the team sheet from yesterday, if we had a full team available, it probably would have been a different outcome. And after watching SPS and Eastwood yesterday, we have nothing to fear from the teams around us, those are the games which will decide where we finish around the end of the season. All us fans have to patient and give the guys until at least around christmas time, when the games come around quite quickly barring any postponements. Then we can stock of where we are, and where we are going. The manager is being asked to a difficult job on a tight budget, i'm sure there's players he would like to bring in, but there's just not the money available. As one person said to me last season, It's no coincidence that the Burscough's of this world are the bottom of the league and the biggest payers in Chorley and Hednesford etc are near the top. (That was Rinky). That's not to say you can't have success on a smaller budget, but the chances of that happening are slim and you need a lot of luck to fall your way. We know this from our own experience, having one good season every 10-15 years.
Every manager needs good tools to do a job, let's hope he can unearth some gems from somewhere, certainly some of the players he has brought in look decent, Yes 1 point out of 21 is not great by any imagination, what the team don't need and won't help is being put under pressure by so called fans, if we won 11 games out of 12, some fans would be questioning why we the lost the one.

And let me finish by saying, the above is not excuses, it's reality....To call for the manager to be sacked, and comments like RIP Frickley and what's happened to this great club etc etc. is as sad as it is pathetic. A True Frickley fan would be constructive in his opinions, grit his teeth and support the team. That's what made Frickley Athletic a great club over the years, backs to the wall, fighting from the trenches mentality, that's why clubs never used to like coming here. Now we seem to be a soft touch, because too many fans don't get behind the team enough. Too many would rather concentrate on slagging the referee off. Only once or twice did i feel a real atmosphere of days gone by last season, Chorley in the 2nd half, when we spurred them onto a win, and probably the 1-0 win against Ferriby. Give them a break, be patient and support the team. Yes it's going to be a long hard slog this season, but you reap on what you sow and we all have a part to play.


These opinions are my own, and are in no way connected to the Official Club Frickley Athletic Fc.

Mini M I think every Frickley fan who has been there come good or bad feels like i do. I have gone on record as saying dont blame the manager who is trying his best on a poor wage bill but what do we do just wait another 4 games and then sack him and bring in someone with the just keep us up remit? Thats no good is it? Let me say i do not want the manager sacked i wish he could get us into mid table Honest, but can he on the budget he has? i dont think he can, but i really really hope he can. At the same time i dont just want to go on hoping maybe he will pick someone up who can do us a job and then find out he hasent and we sack him 10 game in and are in to the above looking for a manager and looking at other teams result because thats no good is it? Also i say we carnt blame the players who are playing above thier ability but are doing thier best IMO.
I dont know why we find ourselfs in this hole again and i dont know what the answer is. Sacking the manager NO, Keeping him another 4 games hoping he will pick someone up NO. But going on like this year in year out is no good for anyone club or fans. All any of us want is a half desent team maybe mid table and a little run in the cups.
My views are born out of pure frustration like many others are i feel. I am sorry for that but thats F1 sorry.
Can i just say Copper Dragon you talk rubbish mate.

Well, that's obviously incorrect, because i don't..ask yourself another thing, would bringing another manager in actually increase the budget,the simple answer is no. Unless Harry Redknapp wishes to try his arm at the sticky league and do some wheeling and dealing, we persist with what we've got.

Yes you are right frickley 1 I talk rubbish because I get behind the team win or lose I'm therr and I.be there Tuesday have a good day be there Tuesday to cheer the team on. Cmon frickley

I can see Frickley1s' point of view, don't agree with it, but see it. Don't think sacking the manager will change anything
really, players will depart and players will arrive, probably no better or worse.
Do not like players missing games unless they are injured or suspended, but it seems to be an increasing thing in non-league
football. Losing a player in the warm up not helping matters and not being able to take advantage of having an extra man
a bit disappointing.
Really need something approaching a settled side, a bit of luck and a good performance and three points to build upon.

What part dont you agree with Blade.

I can see all sides in this thread. I think that Karl Rose dose need a bit more time, but from my point of view he hasn't got much of that left if things continue the way they are. But let's not forget that we have been in every game apart from Ferriby! And we're also still in the FA Cup! I can see that Frickley 1 is frustrated because I am also, with the team only getting 1 point from 21. But you never know, a win on Tuesday night and things may look a lot different. But let's also not forget this is actually a bonus season for us in this league because by rights we should be in Evo-stik Div 1.

However going off topic a bit if I had 2 wishes for this season, I would take us finishing 3rd bottom and just stopping up again but also the main thing for me this season for the club is to get this 50k that we need for the redevelopment!

Let's keep the faith guys and hopefully next week we'll be taking about our first 3pts of the season.

Up The Blues!

The manager (& team) need to be judged on where they are at the end of the season - so judging him in September, October, November etc is a flawed concept in my view. My belief is that managers need 2 seasons minimum before you assess whether you need continuation or a replacement, and that applies to Karl. If we finish 3rd bottom & stay up, then his target next season is a slight improvement on that - little victories is what it's all about.

We ain't gonna finish top 10 unless a rich Russian or Arab moves into the lodge in Frickley park - accept that but keep it as an ambition long term.

Look at the teams who we've played so far this season - 5 out of the top 6 as the table stands today. Yes, we should have taken at least 4 points from Matlock but we didn't. For the last 2 or 3 seasons I've said that Frickleys season will not be determined by their results against the top 10, it's the results against the 6 - 8 teams around us that are critical. so Eastwood, Whitby, SPS etc are the games we need get results.

Yes, it's disappointing to see us in the bottom 2 again but we are there for a reason.

If we go down (I sincerely hope we don't) I'll still be coming up to Westfield Lane next season & that's the attitude we need - get behind the boys no matter how well we perceive them to be doing.

Karl & the boys don't turn up week in week out wanting to lose matches.

Finally if anyone wants to talk to Karl about the team, go & have a word with him in the bar after the match - he's completely open if you're being constructive. SMS has had a word with him, I've had a word with him, I'm sure others have. He's a nice bloke - tell him about your concerns, they are probably the same as his

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This has been a good posting started by Dove well done. Having read all the postings i think its right to say we all want the same thing at the lane a good sound Frickley side. We all know at present a mid table spot is all we could ask for. We all know that what ever happens this year us long term Frickley nuts will be there next year Prem or Div1 and thats great.
I think we could get a win Tue as they have players out and not doing too well themself.
Are all the players back from holiday and therefore playing on TUE?
I remember Mr Marrow getting upset with players going on holiday and as a result we lost one of our all time greats to Bradford. OK not an all time great.
So frustration aside come on lads give us a win Tue and make us ALL happy.

Let's not all get doom n gloom though again if a result doesn't go our way on Tuesday. It seems to me that the players that are taking the money and getting paid are putting 110 per cent effort in, but the guys who pay the money on the gate (us fans) are not putting in the same effort. Funny that isn't it !!..Let's get behind them and cheer them on, Not criticise. A player will play far better if you get behind him i'm sure.

Glad you are feeling more positive Frickley 1.We all want the same thing you see . Has your carer given you an extra yorkshire pudding this afternoon

See ya all Tuesday.

Two Yorkshires and a wall nut cake go's with the Frickley nut you see.
Works wonders.
I'll have to have one before or after the Tue match.
Roll on Tue night.

the way things are and have been at the club for a few years, we are not going to be a top ten side,we should accept what we have, what the budget is, and what the income is, if we manage to stay up this season it will be another successful one and then move on.
several people keep saying this is a bonus season having finished in a relegation place last season,if memory serves me right we have had 2 reprieves previously, and not classed them as bonus seasons the year after.let the past be in the past.
what we need to do is finish out of the bottom 2,weve known this from the outset- were not stranded and adrift from the pack,we are 2 wins behind the likes of worksop,kendal, and matlock, so no need for panic YET.

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