The forum has gone on our site!!!!!

Think they cannot take any criticising from fans

What fans?

There is a few...........

I think from the old club when it had a budget theres about 5? Seems to be more with new members, players parents, girlfriends, board members etc was about 15/20 of them the other night.
I dont think the club are bothered about 'fan criticism' especially when most of it is shortsighted, I think theres been a problem with the website.

I don't think there has been too much criticism and I think the supporters are sympathetic of the situation at Wakefield.

There has been a lot of hard work, effort and no lack of good football this season so far despite a couple of heavy defeats.

I don't think we are expected to compete with Farsley, Skem, Trafford maybe but have got to ensure we take points off the teams that are going to be around us near the foot of the table. The players are gaining experience and learning to handle themselves at this level; we've been to Goole played well especially in the first half and ground out a win there and got a victory and there's no reason we can't go the likes of, and no disrespect meant, Cammell, Prescot, Harrogate and get points there.

Discuss..............

Thats quite correct, the club are aware were weare at and who we may sneak points from as the players are developing, but injuries to 3 of our new signings, Fisher, Blakey and now Dickinson dont help.
The management are working tirelously for players but with £0 budget its very hard, its a long term plan, we now have an U21 team, we are at the moment discussing taking over a West Yorks Lge team to enable us to have a Reserves to blood players.
We hope to have a new signing this week with an old player returning
The club are building a structure on and off the field and going about everything as professional as possible including players diets etc, but again it takes time, what players are unhappy with is so called supporters blatently verball abusing them from the sidelines, these people WILL be barred its unfair on people who give up their time to play/manage/coach Free of charge

I don't think we will be relegated. Firstly because we will probably pick up enough points to stay up on merit as there are so many very poor teams in the league and secondly if we do finish bottom we probably won't be relegated because so few teams seem to be relegated due to ground grading issues/clubs going bust etc. This however does not mean that the team is competitive or that the football is worth paying £8 to watch especially when it was £7 last season under Steve Nicholson and we looked like winning a game at home (last home league victory nearly 14 months ago).

Last season we only stayed up because of the 20 points picked up during Steve Nicholson's reign as manager. Having said that, the team did improve towards the end of the season which saw us pick up a number of key wins as well as playing some decent stuff.

This season (in particular in the last couple of weeks) though we seem to have gone backwards. That is not to say that the players and management are not giving 100% to change this and I am not suggesting otherwise. However I do feel that the tactics have been very questionable in recent weeks, playing one up front at home, playing our only striker in midfield, leaving players out that do well when given a chance, sticking with players who are not playing well etc. We cannot keep a clean sheet so not sure why we don't throw more players forward and go for it - certainly makes it a better spectacle for the supporters. I also feel that former keeper Danny Trueman (who is one of only a handful of players who have experience at this level) was treated poorly because of one bad game despite keeping us in so many games last season (this also included criticism of him by board members which is hypocritical to say the least). Also we are hardly cracking any pots without him.

I understand the long term plan is to develop young players and bring them through to first team level. This in theory sounds perfect but even if the players that come through are worldbeaters, will they stay when Garforth or Ossett will offer them £100 a week instead of nothing? Do we have a plan to try and have some kind of playing budget at some point?

Wakefield FC has been mis-managed for many years, the 18-20 points you mention that the previous manager acquired was done at a cost of over £1000 per point, hence why the club ran into difficulties financially towards late October, mirroring non league clubs up and down the country, in fact financial promises were made by the club to players/staff that could never be achieved due to the lack of income being received by the club, in fact the club had no business plan, it merely seemed that it was throwing money (it didnt have) to try and get a mid table finish.
If Wakefield are to survive than a more economic financial plan has to be adopted, even if this means fans get disgruntled over the form of the 1st team, I can not foresee this changing within the next few years, its a long road ahead to achieve the clubs aims.
The fact that the club has a lack of finance means that the 1st team manager has to bring in younger players, lads who have been released by football league clubs, lads who have been drafted in from lower leagues, all lads with potential, this potential needs enhancing, as such you will see the same lads playing the same tactical football but have differing results throughout the season until they gain experience.
The club are obviously trying to bring in experience in all departments, but at the moment the league we play in is cut throat in relation to players coming and going for a tenner here and a tenner there, the managers main job this season was to build the whole of the infrastructure of the football side not just gain wins for the first team, he has to oversee the whole plan, those of us who are working at the club day in day out see what is happening and what a good job everyone at the club is doing, if we gain wins then great if not we move on.
In relation to the goalkeeper you mentioned, it was felt that we needed a more experienced goalkeeper to help the younger defenders out, this is what has been brought in, there was no bad handling of the former goalkeeper, he decided not to stay.
To have a budget to match a majority of the clubs we play against would mean the club having to find profits in excess of £50k per season, something that I can not envisage happening for a long time, it cost the club over £20k per season just for the basics.

Grassroots

There are more than 5 or so fans from the ''old times''! And i would suggest these are the 'hardcore' fans having been through the promising start and positivity of last season, through the bad times last October/November through to survival on merit at the end of the season. But it is good to have more and more support from where ever they come.

Phil

I agree with you, I don't think we will be relegated for both reasons. We have got some gould young players who are gaining experience and as i've said before how to handle themselves at this level. I've been impressed with the football we've played this season which I think is helped by the good surface at Belle Vue. I do think the football is worth paying 8 quid for if we've paid 7 in the past. In the past I think good football has been a bonus - that's not say I didn't enjoy watching Wakefield - but we seemed to build a reputation, maybe wrongly, as a big, hard working, physical team. I also don't think good football was helped by the College Grove and Ossett Town pitches.

Grassroots

You are obviously more in the know than me but what has changed to the committee/board that will enable us to go forward with a business plan?
Again, I don't think fans are disgruntled. We are seeing a overhaul of players from last season, new players coming in and progress being made. We'll get blips like we did at Trafford and against Farsley but I think we'll get enough points to survive on merit.

I am happy that the club has survived from last season and are moving forward.

Whilst I am on hear can I ask what has happened to the match reports?
I can't always attend every game and like to read them and see what the team was.

Right the weekend starts here...........I'm off to Fernandes if anybody fancies a pint!

P.S Caldon Henson has re-re-resigned for the club!

Right come on!
Enough is enough, when are we getting the forum back on the official pitchero website?
Why has it been taken down and will it be back?

Come on Mr Turfrey, Mr Bevils, Mr Bownhill and even Mr Lines please communicate with the few loyal supporters we have?
Is that asking too much?
If the forum is not to be reinstated at least let us know.

Grassroots, you seem to have shown in your past posts that you are in the know can you help here?

The forum is back, thanks for that and to all concerned.