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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:34 pm 
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Incredible,holbeach is closer to London than it is to Morpeth,and by a considerable distance.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:40 pm 
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Mike M wrote:
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Seeing as though Bishops season has been pretty dire I'm actually looking forwtrue decoto seeing 2 northern league clubs being dragged kicking and screaming to the Evo Stik, a bit of light enthe tain met to look forward too :D

Marske United have neither kicked nor screamed about automatic promotion.They have acted with true decorum.


They won the NL a couple of years ago and didn't go up.

I think it was beyond their wildest dreams that they would win the league that season. So obviously no ground improvements to meet.the criteria required for promotion were in place. Therefore if fhey had applied for promotion they would have failed the inspection.

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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:47 pm 
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Wack wrote:
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Mike M wrote:
Seeing as though Bishops season has been pretty dire I'm actually looking forwtrue decoto seeing 2 northern league clubs being dragged kicking and screaming to the Evo Stik, a bit of light entertainment to look forward too :D

Marske United have neither kicked nor screamed about automatic promotion.They have acted with true decorum.


Fair point . However I suspect they will need to spend handsomely on their ground to stay up (if they get there )

Might be difficult that and out of their hands. Even if generous grants are available. Bowling club are the blue-eyed boys down there.

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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:21 pm 
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Windy, you are normally well informed but I am sure both divisions are to be reduced to 20 for next season ?

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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:31 pm 
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footie fan wrote:
Windy, you are normally well informed but I am sure both divisions are to be reduced to 20 for next season ?


I have reduced both divisions to 20!
The NL1 will lose 5 clubs & gain 3. 2 teams promoted to step 4, 3 promoted from NL2 & 3 relegated to step 6(this could be either the NL2 or NWCL1N if Penrith are involved).
This would leave the NL2 with 21 clubs, or 20 if Penrith are relegated & they’re laterally moved. If Redcar Athletic, Boro Rangers & Birtley Town/Newcastle Uni are all promoted. Then the NL2 will then have either 23 or 24 clubs. Then the F.A.L.C. will relegate the bottom 3 or 4 clubs & this’ll bring the NL2 down to 20 clubs. If Cleator MC wins the Wearside league, then they’ll end up in the NWCL1N & Redcar A will miss out again. Boro Rangers might fail the ground grading or security of tenure. If both these occur, then that’ll mean only 1 club will be promoted from the NA & either the bottom placed side(if Penrith are relegated and moved), or the bottom 2 will go down. Hopefully you get it now & understand all the what ifs?


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:44 pm 
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Incredible,holbeach is closer to London than it is to Morpeth,and by a considerable distance.


That’s why the 8th step 4 league is on the horizon. The F.A. have stated that it’ll happen at some point. As for the potential set up for next season, it could improve if either South Shields or Scarborough fails to go up. Or Goole are reprieved because Ossett Albion are deemed the bottom placed club, after they merge with Ossett Town. From the look of that potential league, there appears to be 6 crap trips & it’ll be the same for those clubs heading to the northeast/West Yorkshire. The rest of the journeys aren’t too bad hopefully there won’t be many midweek games, with the reduced league sizes!


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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aidan's father wrote:
Is their automatic promotion from step 7. If not the NL could propose for a late restructure as a step 7 league, the NCEL forms a new step 6 division and those teams wanting to be part of the pyramid transfer across, those that stay behind can choose to apply as there want when they like. After all nobody at Penrith seems to be complaining about a transfer to the NCEL.


The F.A.L.C. decides where each step is placed in the pyramid. The NL would have to approach the F.A.L.C at the start of the season with any proposals. That’s why the failed with there appeal to set up a step 4 league. The F.A. provides funding for each league, dependent on what step they’re at! All due respects, but how many clubs in the NL would support the league applying to the F.A. to become a lesser league? With less places for entry into the F.A. Vase! Just to support one or two clubs, that don’t fancy being promoted.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:56 am 
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freddycurry wrote:
Incredible,holbeach is closer to London than it is to Morpeth,and by a considerable distance.

And not so long ago Bishop's Stortford (30 miles from London) were playing such as Blyth Spartans in the Conference North!


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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freddycurry wrote:
Incredible,holbeach is closer to London than it is to Morpeth,and by a considerable distance.


And its been many a long year since I saw Holbeach United play. In the proposed set up they will have some tasty local derbies!


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:29 am 
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ovacik wrote:
freddycurry wrote:
Incredible,holbeach is closer to London than it is to Morpeth,and by a considerable distance.


And its been many a long year since I saw Holbeach United play. In the proposed set up they will have some tasty local derbies!


The top of the United Counties League is very tight. With 5 teams vying for the two promotion spots. The two best supported clubs are Holbeach & Wisbech. Unfortunately they’re both from the fens & in the middle of nowhere!


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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22 pages of pure guesses and assumptions. Nobody knows what the FA plans are so to guess they will be moved here, they will be moved there is just all pure guesses.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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footyfan1 wrote:
22 pages of pure guesses and assumptions. Nobody knows what the FA plans are so to guess they will be moved here, they will be moved there is just all pure guesses.


Guesses? My link on page 19, shows exactly where the footprints are for steps 3/4 for next season. The 40 most northerly clubs at step 4, will be in the NPL next season! They’ll either be placed east/west or north/south. Because the NPL are going to let the clubs have a vote on what they would prefer.
A bit higher up on page 19 is the link for the promotion places from step 5 on a ppg basis. Which isn’t guesswork, it’s a projection for the final positions.
In Mike Amos’s blog, he says that the east/west split is likely going to be approved.
https://mikeamosblog.wordpress.com


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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Sorry Windy 1970 my message about Step 7 was meant purely tongue in cheek, should have said. Having said that it would follow the progression the league has taken since the 70's :)


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:08 pm 
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Surely if the additional Step 4 division is created in the 'North' then it would take in that north Midlands band, meaning that the North East segment would have it's natural break at the Humber?

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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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Terrierdave wrote:
Surely if the additional Step 4 division is created in the 'North' then it would take in that north Midlands band, meaning that the North East segment would have it's natural break at the Humber?


I agree, but my main concern is what will be the F.A.’s timescale in creating this new step 4 league! The F.A. wants to create a 1-2-4-8-16 pyramid. So step 5 will be facing a major overhaul & two new leagues created. With the creation of this step 4 league, the F.A. will need to find a total of 60 extra clubs for these new leagues. Are the F.A. going to wait for this two year pilot scheme to end, before the next restructure? Will they link the creation of the two new step 5 leagues, to the new step 4 league? Are we looking at the minimum timescale of season 2020/21 or beyond? How many clubs will potentially fold or be put under financial pressure, because the F.A. won’t rush any further changes that benefit the northeast!


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