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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:25 am 
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Blue star went bust because they moved from their ground and had to pay back the money that was meant to develope it. That and they were paying our fortunes and went to Kingston Park![/quote]

Exactly, got nothing to do with them taking promotion[/quote]

If they hadn't chased the dream, then you may argue that they'd still be here today. So in essence promotion did do it for them.


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Windy1970 wrote:
Blue star went bust because they moved from their ground and had to pay back the money that was meant to develope it. That and they were paying our fortunes and went to Kingston Park!


Exactly, got nothing to do with them taking promotion[/quote]

If they hadn't chased the dream, then you may argue that they'd still be here today. So in essence promotion did do it for them.[/quote]

They could have chased the dream and stayed at the same level. It was the mismanagement of grant funding and paying extortionate unsustainable wages that was their downfall, which could and would have happened no matter what league they played in.


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here is the nail on the head

paying extortionate unsustainable wages

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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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Cestrian wrote:
here is the nail on the head

paying extortionate unsustainable wages



Which isn't just promotion related. As teams do that now. in BOTH divisions.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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Exactly and if they can afford to pay more than teams 1, 2 and maybe even some 3, leagues above, they can afford promotion. Why throw around such sums to go nowhere? Never understood it.

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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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footyfan1 wrote:
Cestrian wrote:
here is the nail on the head

paying extortionate unsustainable wages



Which isn't just promotion related. As teams do that now. in BOTH divisions.



Exactly, it’s got nothing to do with promotion.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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Exactly and if they can afford to pay more than teams 1, 2 and maybe even some 3, leagues above, they can afford promotion. Why throw around such sums to go nowhere? Never understood it.


I don’t care if people want to throw money around just to win the NL or with the carrot of Wembley.

My gripe is when people use the excuse of not being able to afford it and the possibility of going bust, which is simply not true.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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goose wrote:
Exactly and if they can afford to pay more than teams 1, 2 and maybe even some 3, leagues above, they can afford promotion. Why throw around such sums to go nowhere? Never understood it.


the NL has always paid daft money for players wages. even in the 80s some players where on a good screw


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england wrote:
My gripe is when people use the excuse of not being able to afford it and the possibility of going bust, which is simply not true.


That's because the famous Amos phrase 'financial suicide' still resonates

NL missed the boat when the L2 North/South divisions were formed and there was the possibility of mass promotion.


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That after it missed it in the late 70s when it could've directly fed the new Conference.

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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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matt wrote:
england wrote:
My gripe is when people use the excuse of not being able to afford it and the possibility of going bust, which is simply not true.


That's because the famous Amos phrase 'financial suicide' still resonates

NL missed the boat when the L2 North/South divisions were formed and there was the possibility of mass promotion.

I've heard that one of the ideas being muted by the FA, is to promote the whole of the EBAC NL1 at once & make it a step 4 league. This would become the 8th step 4 league & promote straight up to the NPL Prem.
Personally I think the 'Super NL' is more likely. Promote half the EBAC NL1 teams & merge it with the Yorkshire teams at step 4. But the FA are definitely looking at all options.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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Just listening to ken beatties comments regarding promotion. Used to have a lot of respect for him, but he’s showed his true colours.

Concentrate on the case and will challenge the FA on promotion due to finances, absolutely laughable. No wonder the FA have decided to go down the automatic promotion route.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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If there are teams wanting to go up (bishops/shildon) let them go, the main employer in our area is nissan and they are shift workers, which means every other week you can struggle for a side which means you’d have to sign more players or the lads have to get nights off to travel to leeds/manchester etc on a tuesday night, we also have a couple of teachers playing for us and they rarely get away from work before 5 so they couldn’t do the trips and neither could your usual 9-5s it’s bad enough getting ashington/morpeth etc away on a tuesday night without a leeds, manchester team it’s crackers, fair enough if they want to go but it shouldn’t be imposed.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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President_Obama wrote:
If there are teams wanting to go up (bishops/shildon) let them go, the main employer in our area is nissan and they are shift workers, which means every other week you can struggle for a side which means you’d have to sign more players or the lads have to get nights off to travel to leeds/manchester etc on a tuesday night, we also have a couple of teachers playing for us and they rarely get away from work before 5 so they couldn’t do the trips and neither could your usual 9-5s it’s bad enough getting ashington/morpeth etc away on a tuesday night without a leeds, manchester team it’s crackers, fair enough if they want to go but it shouldn’t be imposed.


This is the same for every club, in every league throughout the country!!!


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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I think a stumbling block to clubs taking promotion is the players. A lot lack ambition to play at a higher level. Promotion would involve a lot more travelling and probably less wages than they'd pick up from a NL team. Therefore why would they leave a club where they feel comfortable to play in a higher league.

Only solution is to promote at least 10 NL teams. This massively reduces travelling and all the big spenders would be playing higher up the pyramid.


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