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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:44 am 
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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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Barking mad, and sums the League up to even think they needed to have this discussion.

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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:49 am 
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They now need to make sure that when the opportunity comes up - they are the new step 4 league.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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palmersville lad wrote:
They now need to make sure that when the opportunity comes up - they are the new step 4 league.

problem is its an F A decision and we know how the F A love the northern league.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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2009vasewinner wrote:
palmersville lad wrote:
They now need to make sure that when the opportunity comes up - they are the new step 4 league.

problem is its an F A decision and we know how the F A love the northern league.


Why should the F.A. look favourably at the NL whenever they’re tendering for the new step 4 league? Will the NL engage better within the pyramid? Or will they be as anti as they have been for the past 40 years? Except they’ll just be one step higher in the pyramid system!
The F.A. wants to create a fluid structure, between steps 1-6! Where a team can be promoted to the level that their playing standard dictates. Morpeth could be as strong next season, as South Shields have been this season. So there negativity would mean what? The NL should’ve been pushing for years for this extra step 4 league! The jump in travelling between the NL & the NPL1E, will be too great! The NL should be encouraging their clubs to progress & not acting like a spoilt child who’s had its favourite toy taken away!


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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Uncertainty? What Uncertainty.

You WILL Promote the Top Two to Step 4.
You WILL Not receive a club from Step 4 this season.
You MUST reduce to 20 team divisions at both of Step 5 and 6.

What is so bloody difficult.

22 Div One clubs - 2 promotes - 20
Top Three up from Div Two means they must relegate the Bottom Three

Staight swap of 3 a piece bwteen Div One and Two makes the latter's picture quite clear.

21 clubs after exchanges have taken place with Div One - Only the Northern Alliance Champion can come up which means to get to 20-teams they must relegate the bottom two.

They will have to relegate the bottom three (or the FA will laterally transfer someone out to save their third-bottom side's place at Step 6) ONLY if Redcar Athletic overtake Cleator Moor Celtic.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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Uncertainty? What Uncertainty.

You WILL Promote the Top Two to Step 4.
You WILL Not receive a club from Step 4 this season.
You MUST reduce to 20 team divisions at both of Step 5 and 6.

What is so bloody difficult.

22 Div One clubs - 2 promotes - 20
Top Three up from Div Two means they must relegate the Bottom Three

Staight swap of 3 a piece bwteen Div One and Two makes the latter's picture quite clear.

21 clubs after exchanges have taken place with Div One - Only the Northern Alliance Champion can come up which menas to get to 20-teams they must relegate the bottom two.

They will have to relegate the bottom three (or the FA will laterally transfer someone out to save their third-bottom side's place at Step 6) ONLY if Redcar Athletic overtake Cleator Moor Celtic.


So we expecting the bottom 3 to be relegated from NL2 Windy?


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:03 pm 
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As long as the footprint of the new division is appropriate (and the FA decide that, not whoever wins the bidding process) then what does it matter who 'administers' the division? Just another load of guff

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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:28 pm 
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Windy1970 wrote:
2009vasewinner wrote:
palmersville lad wrote:
They now need to make sure that when the opportunity comes up - they are the new step 4 league.

problem is its an F A decision and we know how the F A love the northern league.


Why should the F.A. look favourably at the NL whenever they’re tendering for the new step 4 league? Will the NL engage better within the pyramid? Or will they be as anti as they have been for the past 40 years? Except they’ll just be one step higher in the pyramid system!
The F.A. wants to create a fluid structure, between steps 1-6! Where a team can be promoted to the level that their playing standard dictates. Morpeth could be as strong next season, as South Shields have been this season. So there negativity would mean what? The NL should’ve been pushing for years for this extra step 4 league! The jump in travelling between the NL & the NPL1E, will be too great! The NL should be encouraging their clubs to progress & not acting like a spoilt child who’s had its favourite toy taken away!

I would be surprised if the northern premier league is not chosen to run the extra step 4 league.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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The only uncertainty as I see it is what happens in the Wearside league. The northern alliance will be Birtley or Newcastle university promoted, there is no applicant from the NRL so it is either Cleator Moor or Redcar from the Wearside. It seems to be the way of thinking that if Cleator moor win then they will be promoted into the new NWCL div 2 then it will I suppose be up to the FA whether they allow two promotions from the Wearside because of the re-placement of Cleator Moor. If Redcar overtake Cleator Moor then the northern league will lose its three bottom clubs with two promotions making twenty clubs. It all depends on which way the wind is blowing, if there is an R in the month, if the FA are using a 2 headed coin etc etc. Who knows what decisions will come out of FA headquarters during May, whatever happens some clubs may be severely wassed off. I suppose just to complicate things as well there is the spectre of sideways movement for Penrith and Northallerton, hope this helps!!!!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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Why should the F.A. look favourably at the NL whenever they’re tendering for the new step 4 league? Will the NL engage better within the pyramid? Or will they be as anti as they have been for the past 40 years? Except they’ll just be one step higher in the pyramid system!
The F.A. wants to create a fluid structure, between steps 1-6! Where a team can be promoted to the level that their playing standard dictates. Morpeth could be as strong next season, as South Shields have been this season. So there negativity would mean what? The NL should’ve been pushing for years for this extra step 4 league! The jump in travelling between the NL & the NPL1E, will be too great! The NL should be encouraging their clubs to progress & not acting like a spoilt child who’s had its favourite toy taken away![/quote]
I would be surprised if the northern premier league is not chosen to run the extra step 4 league.[/quote]

Are you suggesting that the F.A. will look favourably on a league that just had an EGM, over whether to leave the Nonleague structure or even join the Scottish pyramid? The NL has burnt its bridges years ago! The NPL will win the tendering process! The Southern & the Isthmian leagues, will both run 4 each of the 11 step 3/4 leagues! So if another step 4 league is created, who do you think the F.A. will turn to? By the way, the NPL runs the other 3 step 3/4 leagues.......


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:01 pm 
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footyfan1 wrote:
Windy1970 wrote:
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Uncertainty? What Uncertainty.

You WILL Promote the Top Two to Step 4.
You WILL Not receive a club from Step 4 this season.
You MUST reduce to 20 team divisions at both of Step 5 and 6.

What is so bloody difficult.

22 Div One clubs - 2 promotes - 20
Top Three up from Div Two means they must relegate the Bottom Three

Staight swap of 3 a piece bwteen Div One and Two makes the latter's picture quite clear.

21 clubs after exchanges have taken place with Div One - Only the Northern Alliance Champion can come up which menas to get to 20-teams they must relegate the bottom two.

They will have to relegate the bottom three (or the FA will laterally transfer someone out to save their third-bottom side's place at Step 6) ONLY if Redcar Athletic overtake Cleator Moor Celtic.


So we expecting the bottom 3 to be relegated from NL2 Windy?


Only if Redcar Athletic wins the Wearside league! But teams could be laterally transferred instead of the bottom 3 being relegated.


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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Windy1970 wrote:
2009vasewinner wrote:
The NL should be encouraging their clubs to progress & not acting like a spoilt child who’s had its favourite toy taken away!


Couldn't agree more, this is long, long overdue. And no amount of "devil take the hindmost" tantrum-throwing is going to stop it.

Think I'll raise a glass to the FA over this one.

Mine, as ever, will be a pint. :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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Any idea who proposed the vote on leaving the pyramid?
Was it the league itself or did some of the clubs propose the vote to leave?


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 Post subject: Re: The FA's proposed new restructuring
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The Northern league champions have been free to step up if they had wanted for a number of years. The Northern league couldn't have stopped them. At the end of the day it's the clubs and only them who decide to go up or stay irrespective of anything else


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