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 Post subject: Teesside League - folding?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:58 pm 
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I have just been on Thirsk Falcons Facebook page and it states that the Teesside League is folding at the end of the season - is there any truth in this?

I have copied this from their Facebook page:

The adult Teesside league is folding and the North Riding is taking over to create a large new league in the North Riding area, including Stokesley and other clubs in to the larger district etc. They will be also creating under 18/21 teams and competitions, possibly on Sundays. Players might like to join this new league, when it is established.

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 Post subject: Re: Teesside League - folding?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:18 pm 
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Not folding, the County want to try and revitalise Saturday football and will take over the running of the Teesside League, renaming the league [no names yet] still running cup competitions under names familiar to the Teesside League, there is a meeting next week with the Eskdale and Cleveland league to buy into the set up and to also have an under 19's league playing on a Sunday, nothing about teams like Stokesley at this point just the existing Teesside teams, 2 new teams have expressed an interest in joining


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 Post subject: Re: Teesside League - folding?
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Thanks, Sean - it would be dreadful to see such a long-established league suffer.


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 Post subject: Re: Teesside League - folding?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:38 pm 
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sfc1879 wrote:
Not folding, the County want to try and revitalise Saturday football and will take over the running of the Teesside League, renaming the league [no names yet] still running cup competitions under names familiar to the Teesside League, there is a meeting next week with the Eskdale and Cleveland league to buy into the set up and to also have an under 19's league playing on a Sunday, nothing about teams like Stokesley at this point just the existing Teesside teams, 2 new teams have expressed an interest in joining

Was there any assurances that the new league will retain its step 7 status?
Are there any other Saturday leagues that have clubs that might get involved? There's a big gap between the York League & the Teesside League & I'm sure there must be teams in this large area that are ambitious?


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 Post subject: Re: Teesside League - folding?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:42 pm 
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Sad to see it's come to this.
Effectively this will be the death of the Teesside League. Whether it's murder, suicide, accident, misadventure or natural causes, well that's a matter of opinion.
But let all us footie fans hope a mighty phoenix arises from the ashes and one day the Teesside League returns from this North Riding FA run League (whatever they call it that is).


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 Post subject: Re: Teesside League - folding?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:55 pm 
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Again, I have copied from Thirsk Falcon's Facebook page. The criteria for Step 7 grounds make very interesting reading:

These are Step 7 regulations for grounds and faciilties.

GROUND GRADING REQUIREMENTS
Step 7 Minimum Ground Grading Guidelines
1. GROUND
1.1 Security of Tenure
Where a club does not own the freehold of their ground then evidence of adequate security of tenure must be provided.
1.2 Ground Share
Ground sharing would be at the discretion of each league within the National League System, taking into account local circumstances. Where ground sharing is permitted the club must have sole control over and use of facilities on match days.
Ground sharing must not be allowed in order for a club to gain promotion.
1.3 Capacity
There is no stated ground capacity.
1.4 Boundary of Ground
There is no requirement for a ground to be enclosed in any way.
1.5 Clubhouse
A clubhouse facility, whilst being desirable, is not compulsory.
If a clubhouse facility exits either on or adjacent to the ground, this should be open on match days to provide refreshments to spectators.
1.6 Car Parking
There should be adequate car parking facilities on or adjacent to the ground.
1.7 Pitch Perimeter Barrier
As a minimum, there must be post and rope surrounding the pitch on all those sides that may be occupied by spectators.
The barrier, if other than solid wall type of construction may be infilled. Advertising boards may be acceptable as a means of infill.
Ideally, there should be a minimum of 1.83 metres, ideally 2 metres between the touchline, goal line and the pitch perimeter barrier.
1.8 Pitch Standards
The playing surface will be grass, unless otherwise authorised by the respective League Rules and must be of an acceptable standard. It must be free from surface depressions and excessive undulations.
The maximum slope allowable shall not exceed an even gradient of vertical to horizontal 1 : 41 in any direction.
1.9 Playing Area
The playing area is to be in accordance with the requirements of the Laws of the Game. Law 1 states that the length of the touchline must be greater than the length of the goal line.
Length - Minimum 90 m (100 yds) Maximum 120 m (130 yds)
Width - Minimum 45 m (50 yds) Maximum 90 m (100 yds)
It should be noted that at Grade H the playing area must be a minimum of 100 metres x 64 metres.
Goal posts and goal net supports should be of professional manufacture and conform to the current safety requirements and to the requirements of the Laws of the Game.
Reference should be made to the Goalpost Safety Information booklet published by The Football Association.
1.10 Technical Area
Portable trainers’ boxes are permitted and must be securely fixed when in use.
It is desirable for a Technical Area to be marked out in accordance with the guidance contained in the ‘Laws of the Game’ booklet.
1.11 Secure Walkway
A secure walkway is not a requirement.
1.12 Floodlighting
Floodlighting is not compulsory at this Grade.
However, where it is provided it must be to an average lux reading of 120. No single reading can be less than one quarter of the highest reading so as to ensure an even spread of light.
Reading shall be on a grid of 88 markings (8 across, 11 down) evenly spaced with the outside readings falling on the pitch boundary line. The average of all the readings is taken to be the average illumination level in lux of the floodlighting installation.
The lux values must be tested every two years in accordance with current guidelines by an approved independent contractor.
When new or improved installations are being planned, an average lux. reading of 180 should be provided.
1.13 Public Address System
A public address system is not compulsory.
1.14 Entrances
There is no requirement for fixed entry points.
However, where a turnstile is installed, it must be fully operational and of the controlled revolving type.
1.15 Exits
Where fixed exit points are provided, there must be sufficient to ensure the safe evacuation of the ground if necessary.
All exits must be clearly signposted.
1.16 Emergency Access
Access for emergency services should be provided.
2. SPECTATOR FACILITIES
2.1 Seated Accommodation
Seated accommodation is not a requirement.
2.2 Covered Standing Accommodation
Covered accommodation is not compulsory.
Hard standing is not compulsory.
However, where it is provided it must be a minimum width of 0.9 metre, measured from the spectator side of the pitch perimeter barrier where provided. .
2.3 Toilets
Provision should be made for adequate toilet facilities.
2.4 Refreshment Facilities
Refreshment facilities for spectators are not compulsory.
3. DRESSING ROOM FACILITIES
All dressing rooms must be secure and suitable for purpose.
3.1 Players
Separate dressing rooms must be provided for both teams. Existing dressing room dimensions will be in order, provided that they are of a minimum of 12 square metres, excluding shower and toilet areas. However, clubs wishing to progress should be aware of the need to increase to a minimum of 18 square metres. Where clubs are planning to build new changing rooms, these must be planned to be a minimum size of 18 square metres, excluding shower and toilet areas.
Each dressing room should have the following:
A shower area comprising of at least 3 working showerheads for each team – if not located in the dressing room then they must be located adjacent to it.
Adequate toilet facilities exclusively for the use of players - if not located in the dressing room then they must be located adjacent to it and must not be accessible to the general public.
Hot and cold running water
Shared shower facilities are not acceptable.
Ideally separate toilet facilities should be provided for each team. It is not acceptable for players and match officials to share toilet facilities.
In order to be considered for promotion to Step 6, clubs must have en suite shower and toilet facilities with a minimum of 4 showerheads.
3.2 Match Officials
Separate dressing rooms must be provided for match officials, the minimum size of which shall be
4 square metres excluding shower and toilet areas.
Each match official’s dressing room should have the following:
At least 1 working showerhead.
Adequate toilet facilities, exclusively for the use of match officials, which must be separate from those provided for the players. These do not necessarily need to be situated in the dressing room but must not be accessible to the general public.
Hot and cold running water
Provision should be made for changing accommodation for both male and female match officials.
When new changing rooms are being planned or existing changing rooms refurbished an area of 6 square metres and facilities for mixed gender match officials should be provided.
In order to comply with the G Grade after promotion to Step 6, clubs must provide en suite shower and toilet facilities for the match officials.
All dressing room areas to be maintained to a high level of cleanliness and secure on match days.
4. MEDICAL
There must be a suitable qualified person (minimum F.A. Save a Life) in attendance.
All clubs must provide first aid equipment at their ground.


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 Post subject: Re: Teesside League - folding?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:08 am 
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slssafc wrote:
Again, I have copied from Thirsk Falcon's Facebook page. The criteria for Step 7 grounds make very interesting reading:

These are Step 7 regulations for grounds and faciilties.

GROUND GRADING REQUIREMENTS
Step 7 Minimum Ground Grading Guidelines
1. GROUND
1.1 Security of Tenure
Where a club does not own the freehold of their ground then evidence of adequate security of tenure must be provided.
1.2 Ground Share
Ground sharing would be at the discretion of each league within the National League System, taking into account local circumstances. Where ground sharing is permitted the club must have sole control over and use of facilities on match days.
Ground sharing must not be allowed in order for a club to gain promotion.
1.3 Capacity
There is no stated ground capacity.
1.4 Boundary of Ground
There is no requirement for a ground to be enclosed in any way.
1.5 Clubhouse
A clubhouse facility, whilst being desirable, is not compulsory.
If a clubhouse facility exits either on or adjacent to the ground, this should be open on match days to provide refreshments to spectators.
1.6 Car Parking
There should be adequate car parking facilities on or adjacent to the ground.
1.7 Pitch Perimeter Barrier
As a minimum, there must be post and rope surrounding the pitch on all those sides that may be occupied by spectators.
The barrier, if other than solid wall type of construction may be infilled. Advertising boards may be acceptable as a means of infill.
Ideally, there should be a minimum of 1.83 metres, ideally 2 metres between the touchline, goal line and the pitch perimeter barrier.
1.8 Pitch Standards
The playing surface will be grass, unless otherwise authorised by the respective League Rules and must be of an acceptable standard. It must be free from surface depressions and excessive undulations.
The maximum slope allowable shall not exceed an even gradient of vertical to horizontal 1 : 41 in any direction.
1.9 Playing Area
The playing area is to be in accordance with the requirements of the Laws of the Game. Law 1 states that the length of the touchline must be greater than the length of the goal line.
Length - Minimum 90 m (100 yds) Maximum 120 m (130 yds)
Width - Minimum 45 m (50 yds) Maximum 90 m (100 yds)
It should be noted that at Grade H the playing area must be a minimum of 100 metres x 64 metres.
Goal posts and goal net supports should be of professional manufacture and conform to the current safety requirements and to the requirements of the Laws of the Game.
Reference should be made to the Goalpost Safety Information booklet published by The Football Association.
1.10 Technical Area
Portable trainers’ boxes are permitted and must be securely fixed when in use.
It is desirable for a Technical Area to be marked out in accordance with the guidance contained in the ‘Laws of the Game’ booklet.
1.11 Secure Walkway
A secure walkway is not a requirement.
1.12 Floodlighting
Floodlighting is not compulsory at this Grade.
However, where it is provided it must be to an average lux reading of 120. No single reading can be less than one quarter of the highest reading so as to ensure an even spread of light.
Reading shall be on a grid of 88 markings (8 across, 11 down) evenly spaced with the outside readings falling on the pitch boundary line. The average of all the readings is taken to be the average illumination level in lux of the floodlighting installation.
The lux values must be tested every two years in accordance with current guidelines by an approved independent contractor.
When new or improved installations are being planned, an average lux. reading of 180 should be provided.
1.13 Public Address System
A public address system is not compulsory.
1.14 Entrances
There is no requirement for fixed entry points.
However, where a turnstile is installed, it must be fully operational and of the controlled revolving type.
1.15 Exits
Where fixed exit points are provided, there must be sufficient to ensure the safe evacuation of the ground if necessary.
All exits must be clearly signposted.
1.16 Emergency Access
Access for emergency services should be provided.
2. SPECTATOR FACILITIES
2.1 Seated Accommodation
Seated accommodation is not a requirement.
2.2 Covered Standing Accommodation
Covered accommodation is not compulsory.
Hard standing is not compulsory.
However, where it is provided it must be a minimum width of 0.9 metre, measured from the spectator side of the pitch perimeter barrier where provided. .
2.3 Toilets
Provision should be made for adequate toilet facilities.
2.4 Refreshment Facilities
Refreshment facilities for spectators are not compulsory.
3. DRESSING ROOM FACILITIES
All dressing rooms must be secure and suitable for purpose.
3.1 Players
Separate dressing rooms must be provided for both teams. Existing dressing room dimensions will be in order, provided that they are of a minimum of 12 square metres, excluding shower and toilet areas. However, clubs wishing to progress should be aware of the need to increase to a minimum of 18 square metres. Where clubs are planning to build new changing rooms, these must be planned to be a minimum size of 18 square metres, excluding shower and toilet areas.
Each dressing room should have the following:
A shower area comprising of at least 3 working showerheads for each team – if not located in the dressing room then they must be located adjacent to it.
Adequate toilet facilities exclusively for the use of players - if not located in the dressing room then they must be located adjacent to it and must not be accessible to the general public.
Hot and cold running water
Shared shower facilities are not acceptable.
Ideally separate toilet facilities should be provided for each team. It is not acceptable for players and match officials to share toilet facilities.
In order to be considered for promotion to Step 6, clubs must have en suite shower and toilet facilities with a minimum of 4 showerheads.
3.2 Match Officials
Separate dressing rooms must be provided for match officials, the minimum size of which shall be
4 square metres excluding shower and toilet areas.
Each match official’s dressing room should have the following:
At least 1 working showerhead.
Adequate toilet facilities, exclusively for the use of match officials, which must be separate from those provided for the players. These do not necessarily need to be situated in the dressing room but must not be accessible to the general public.
Hot and cold running water
Provision should be made for changing accommodation for both male and female match officials.
When new changing rooms are being planned or existing changing rooms refurbished an area of 6 square metres and facilities for mixed gender match officials should be provided.
In order to comply with the G Grade after promotion to Step 6, clubs must provide en suite shower and toilet facilities for the match officials.
All dressing room areas to be maintained to a high level of cleanliness and secure on match days.
4. MEDICAL
There must be a suitable qualified person (minimum F.A. Save a Life) in attendance.
All clubs must provide first aid equipment at their ground.

The minimum for Step 7 is very basic. I dont see why any club couldnt achieve it


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 Post subject: Re: Teesside League - folding?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 2:00 pm 
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The word "adequate" appears quite a few times. What's adequate for me may not be adequate for you. What is adequate? Can anybody give me an adequate explanation?


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 Post subject: Re: Teesside League - folding?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:52 pm 
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andy_pool wrote:
slssafc wrote:
Again, I have copied from Thirsk Falcon's Facebook page. The criteria for Step 7 grounds make very interesting reading:

These are Step 7 regulations for grounds and faciilties.

GROUND GRADING REQUIREMENTS
Step 7 Minimum Ground Grading Guidelines
1. GROUND
1.1 Security of Tenure
Where a club does not own the freehold of their ground then evidence of adequate security of tenure must be provided.
1.2 Ground Share
Ground sharing would be at the discretion of each league within the National League System, taking into account local circumstances. Where ground sharing is permitted the club must have sole control over and use of facilities on match days.
Ground sharing must not be allowed in order for a club to gain promotion.
1.3 Capacity
There is no stated ground capacity.
1.4 Boundary of Ground
There is no requirement for a ground to be enclosed in any way.
1.5 Clubhouse
A clubhouse facility, whilst being desirable, is not compulsory.
If a clubhouse facility exits either on or adjacent to the ground, this should be open on match days to provide refreshments to spectators.
1.6 Car Parking
There should be adequate car parking facilities on or adjacent to the ground.
1.7 Pitch Perimeter Barrier
As a minimum, there must be post and rope surrounding the pitch on all those sides that may be occupied by spectators.
The barrier, if other than solid wall type of construction may be infilled. Advertising boards may be acceptable as a means of infill.
Ideally, there should be a minimum of 1.83 metres, ideally 2 metres between the touchline, goal line and the pitch perimeter barrier.
1.8 Pitch Standards
The playing surface will be grass, unless otherwise authorised by the respective League Rules and must be of an acceptable standard. It must be free from surface depressions and excessive undulations.
The maximum slope allowable shall not exceed an even gradient of vertical to horizontal 1 : 41 in any direction.
1.9 Playing Area
The playing area is to be in accordance with the requirements of the Laws of the Game. Law 1 states that the length of the touchline must be greater than the length of the goal line.
Length - Minimum 90 m (100 yds) Maximum 120 m (130 yds)
Width - Minimum 45 m (50 yds) Maximum 90 m (100 yds)
It should be noted that at Grade H the playing area must be a minimum of 100 metres x 64 metres.
Goal posts and goal net supports should be of professional manufacture and conform to the current safety requirements and to the requirements of the Laws of the Game.
Reference should be made to the Goalpost Safety Information booklet published by The Football Association.
1.10 Technical Area
Portable trainers’ boxes are permitted and must be securely fixed when in use.
It is desirable for a Technical Area to be marked out in accordance with the guidance contained in the ‘Laws of the Game’ booklet.
1.11 Secure Walkway
A secure walkway is not a requirement.
1.12 Floodlighting
Floodlighting is not compulsory at this Grade.
However, where it is provided it must be to an average lux reading of 120. No single reading can be less than one quarter of the highest reading so as to ensure an even spread of light.
Reading shall be on a grid of 88 markings (8 across, 11 down) evenly spaced with the outside readings falling on the pitch boundary line. The average of all the readings is taken to be the average illumination level in lux of the floodlighting installation.
The lux values must be tested every two years in accordance with current guidelines by an approved independent contractor.
When new or improved installations are being planned, an average lux. reading of 180 should be provided.
1.13 Public Address System
A public address system is not compulsory.
1.14 Entrances
There is no requirement for fixed entry points.
However, where a turnstile is installed, it must be fully operational and of the controlled revolving type.
1.15 Exits
Where fixed exit points are provided, there must be sufficient to ensure the safe evacuation of the ground if necessary.
All exits must be clearly signposted.
1.16 Emergency Access
Access for emergency services should be provided.
2. SPECTATOR FACILITIES
2.1 Seated Accommodation
Seated accommodation is not a requirement.
2.2 Covered Standing Accommodation
Covered accommodation is not compulsory.
Hard standing is not compulsory.
However, where it is provided it must be a minimum width of 0.9 metre, measured from the spectator side of the pitch perimeter barrier where provided. .
2.3 Toilets
Provision should be made for adequate toilet facilities.
2.4 Refreshment Facilities
Refreshment facilities for spectators are not compulsory.
3. DRESSING ROOM FACILITIES
All dressing rooms must be secure and suitable for purpose.
3.1 Players
Separate dressing rooms must be provided for both teams. Existing dressing room dimensions will be in order, provided that they are of a minimum of 12 square metres, excluding shower and toilet areas. However, clubs wishing to progress should be aware of the need to increase to a minimum of 18 square metres. Where clubs are planning to build new changing rooms, these must be planned to be a minimum size of 18 square metres, excluding shower and toilet areas.
Each dressing room should have the following:
A shower area comprising of at least 3 working showerheads for each team – if not located in the dressing room then they must be located adjacent to it.
Adequate toilet facilities exclusively for the use of players - if not located in the dressing room then they must be located adjacent to it and must not be accessible to the general public.
Hot and cold running water
Shared shower facilities are not acceptable.
Ideally separate toilet facilities should be provided for each team. It is not acceptable for players and match officials to share toilet facilities.
In order to be considered for promotion to Step 6, clubs must have en suite shower and toilet facilities with a minimum of 4 showerheads.
3.2 Match Officials
Separate dressing rooms must be provided for match officials, the minimum size of which shall be
4 square metres excluding shower and toilet areas.
Each match official’s dressing room should have the following:
At least 1 working showerhead.
Adequate toilet facilities, exclusively for the use of match officials, which must be separate from those provided for the players. These do not necessarily need to be situated in the dressing room but must not be accessible to the general public.
Hot and cold running water
Provision should be made for changing accommodation for both male and female match officials.
When new changing rooms are being planned or existing changing rooms refurbished an area of 6 square metres and facilities for mixed gender match officials should be provided.
In order to comply with the G Grade after promotion to Step 6, clubs must provide en suite shower and toilet facilities for the match officials.
All dressing room areas to be maintained to a high level of cleanliness and secure on match days.
4. MEDICAL
There must be a suitable qualified person (minimum F.A. Save a Life) in attendance.
All clubs must provide first aid equipment at their ground.

The minimum for Step 7 is very basic. I dont see why any club couldnt achieve it

It's slightly harder than you imagine. For example the Lincs League have been trying for years to achieve step 7 status & the FA are trying to make sure it's achieved this either this summer or next.


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The new league is to be called the North Riding Football League and will consist of a Premier Division a Division One and a U19 Division.


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 Post subject: Re: Teesside League - folding?
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will the sunday U19s games be 2pm k.o or 10.30am ?

public transport is a nightmare on a sunday morning!

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MENOTSKINNY wrote:
will the sunday U19s games be 2pm k.o or 10.30am ?

public transport is a nightmare on a sunday morning!


The 19s will kick off at 1.30.


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excellent ! cheers :D

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 Post subject: Re: Teesside League - folding?
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AllyGB wrote:
This forum will be renamed in the close season.

If the league sustains its step 7 status, will it be moved up to the Northern League Feeder section? Which it should always have been in.


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